Suhr treble bleed review forum I’d like to snip it out of the circuit without doing any non-reversible damage to the guitar’s electronics. Big fan of modern wiring with a treble bleed. I bought a beautiful Suhr Classic S roasted flame mapple neck that I love. So, to simulate a treble bleed mod, all you have to do is put a volume block at the beginning of your chain on the Axe-Fx’s grid and use a pedal to control Feb 26, 2018 · Re: Treble Bleed Cap and Resistor Values? I am zero help on the treble bleed as I have never liked them. Just thinking out aloud, what differences might there be when comparing that set of values say, vs the 2 below: DiMarzio – 560 pF capacitor & 300 kΩ resistor John Suhr – 680 pF capacitor & 150kΩ resistor Thanks! Feb 15, 2018 · What I did find was that some Suhr guitars come pre-equipped with a treble bleed circuit and a discussion at thegearpage stated that the components were a 680pf cap with a 150k 1/4 watt resistor probably in parallel but possibly in series like the Kinman circuit. The treble bleed circuit will help with passing high frequencies at different volumes. I have a treble bleed in most of my guitars but I’m actually liking the sounds I’m getting this alternative way. Has anyone done this mod on a Les Paul, and if so Nov 24, 2016 · Incidentally these values (1 nF & 150 kΩ) are sold by Stew Mac as a their “Golden Age Treble Bleed Circuit”. Locking tuners on AZ work differently and need certain practice before you are Aug 11, 2022 · Update: I kept the treble bleed in for my outdoor gig last night. 4 Kohm), and it uses a 330pF ceramic cap with no resistor. Dec 7, 2024 · All traditional treble bleed circuits are compromises between being effective vs increasing treble too much when you turn volume down. Hope it is some help to everybody out there. Jan 27, 2008 · I find that the small amount of treble loss when I roll down the volume is desired as I do not like the overly bright clean tones. Jan 19, 2010 · I have a Treble Bleed in all my Strats and I love it. This worked well in another treble bleed situation. Others have different opinions and it is a very useful thing for them to have the treble bleed Dec 16, 2024 · I have a wonderful P24. The All-New Suhr 2-Post Bridge; Suhr – Woodshed Guitar Experience Contest 2023; Suhr Guitars | ©2016-2022 JS Technologies Profile Log in to check your private messages Log in Oct 10, 2024 · Just got an SE Standard, and love it. Sep 21, 2022 · Whether you're performing live or recording in the studio, the Boffin FX Adjustable Treble Bleed Circuit is your secret weapon for achieving pristine sound quality. Jul 22, 2022 · The treble bleed changes the curve of the volume pot. Forum; The Pickup Lounge; Talk with your fellow tone freaks on the web's liveliest (and friendliest!) tone forum. The circuit looks like there's a treble bleed cap in there but no note of the value. I use short 10ft mogami platinum cable (3368) and buffer in (right after Fuzz face) and out of my pedal board. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Sep 9, 2024 · I don't think I've ever tried them together. com Based on my recent circuit simulations I recommened that if you use a 10 ft cable from your guitar to your pedla board or amp, choose the Mojo, DiMarzio, or Suhr values. The harness made a huge. that's the way I would go. TREBLE BLEED TYPE LIST: EDIT: Re-written to appear in table format, see Yogi B 's post below. But I could see removing the treble bleed circuit if you only play at home. so I'm really convinced I need to put in a treble bleed circuit, but I certainly want to do it carefully. A Treble Bleed circuit (or, "high pass filter") will help retain highs as you roll off the volume of your guitar or bass. Mar 28, 2024 · I'm adding Bourns push/pulls for just the volumes (coil tap) and both tones and volumes are 500k value all-around, but I'm giving pause to the treble bleed values. The only mod I'll probably do is a treble bleed on the volume pot because it gets very dull when I turn it down even just a little. I've thought of making it adjustable by putting a trimpot in series with the cap. All pots in the guitar are currently 500k. Otherwise I've held off a NGD post until I've gotten some good playing time under my belt but I think most of you here already know they really are things of beauty. e. Suhr. John Cordy did a video today if you want to hear it in action: His previous custom guitar, the Suhr Standard, would provide the foundation, with its chambered mahogany/maple body and S-type outline. I love everything about it except the huge loss in treble when I work the volume knob. 50's style wiring is awesome. Can this be Aug 24, 2022 · For example: in heel down position, RC Boost just on the edge of break up with a bit more treble. If you use a 30 ft cable choose one of the versions with 1 nF or 1. I love the sound of my 2008 LP Standard ( January Model before they did the upgrades ) but I really hate the way it gets muddy. I ordered a bunch of caps and resistors nearly a decade ago and still have a bunch left. It gave some beef and articulation to the Charvel, sounds killer. ii and 2 others geetarmikey Sep 29, 2022 · The size of the cap would depend on how much bleed you want, type of pickup and pot etc, but I use around 1000pF, which is big. On most of my other guitars, I've removed the treble bleed cap and taken the tone control off the wiper of the Oct 10, 2024 · Just got an SE Standard, and love it. 001 capcitor IN SERIES with a 100k resistor would result in a more pleasant tone ?? Basically i DO want a treble bleed, however i just want one that wont be TOO tinny and trebly like with the capacitor on its The Official Suhr Forum www. The more you reduce the volume (increase the resistance across the middle and top wiper) the more it comes into play. The old Fenders have a rounder neck radius which makes bent strings fret out so the action has to be higher to correct that problem, and the frets Mar 24, 2022 · Need your help. Jan 6, 2024 · Now I have a problem: I don't like AT ALL the taper of the pot because it is usable only from 10 to 7, below 7 is almost mute while with treble bleed the sweep is a lot more smooth. But the recipe makes the Hombre a powerful performer with versatility that belies the simple control interface. It sounds like a treble range that's immune to the volume knob; ie there's always this loud high end sitting on top of whatever the rest of the pickup(s) are doing. But there's a slight loss of top when the vol is backed off. Nov 27, 2017 · I picked up a classic antique HSS a couple of months ago. I feel it has treble bleed mod installed, as harmonics are fine even at low volume - 5/5 Machine heads: Work perfectly (are lockable), although i prefer a usual schaller or gotoh locking machine heads that must be turned at the back of the neck to lock the string. The treble bleed circuit will help with retaining of high frequencies at lower volumes. Jun 13, 2020 · Pablo’s Question made me think about a list of Treble Bleed types I had assembled from different web sources. 2 nF cap and a Jan 11, 2012 · Treble bleeds (I prefer "50's wiring" aka "the fezz parka mod", do a search) to a true treble bleed. You have already found the correct value for it. Apr 7, 2024 · I believe I saw a vid w/ Andy saying there's a treble bleed in the guitar, which makes sense if all three pickups are the same or have the same output. Search for: Recent Posts. Ibanez use a 330pf as a single component. The ones with a resistor and capacitor in parrallel are intended to be used with an "Audio taper" pot. I have also seen where suhr and fender use 2 resistors in series as part of the treble bleed. I felt it really helped maintain some cut for when I rolled off my guitar volume-especially later in when heavy ear fatigue set in. I tried the Suhr treble bleed with 680pf and 150k in parallel and it performed great in that guitar. Semi related, but I play jazz music and for years I've seen people on forums suggest really dark/warm pickups and dark guitars for jazz, but the real secret to a good jazz tone is to have a bright, resonant guitar with low Sep 25, 2016 · My subjective opinion as to how these sound is that they reminded me pretty thoroughly of Fat 50's or Lollar Blackfaces, the range of Strat pickup that trades away "glass, chime, spank" in favor of "prominent midrange, clear treble and a full bass that has a defined piano like attack". I only use volume pot to obtain clean up, and with Apr 30, 2016 · Re: treble bleed and Suhr HSS switching: opinions I don't know about the HSS resistor switching, but treble bleeds can sound harsh & brittle with volume rolled down. Some folks like it to work that way. May 28, 2017 · Hey all, I had one of the first 250 rosewood Silver Sky guitars in the States. It’s an HSH pickup configuration. This will actually boost the high frequencies to negatate the effect of the 500k volume pot. It looks like it's been messed with. Prices are fantastic, too. huge difference. 38 Kohm) and PAF Pro (8. I might put one on the Suhr for clean/ crunch on the single coils where it is great. Mar 26, 2014 · Re: Treble bleed recipes for Strats I always hated the names on all of these mods. Jun 5, 2024 · I assume a Suhr Modern is going to have 500k audio taper pots with a treble bleed on the volume. I don't know eletronic stuff, is it possible that the treble bleed turn the audio in a linear pot? Dec 13, 2019 · It darkens up considerably when rolling off the volume and when I play it side by side with my American Pro Strat with a treble bleed it's a big difference. I am handy with a soldering iron however, I have no knowledge of what values resistor and capacitance I should use. Jul 14, 2021 · It was the refined (mature?) super-strat that I have always dreamed of down to the wiring (the auto split-coil neck position and treble bleed are simply awesome) and I was determined to snag one if the opportunity presented itself. , series, parallel and the values. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed Treble bleed mod will not change your guitar tone when the volume pot is on 10. Switching to HBs from single coils, I'd try the . Suhr direct mounts the pickups in its Standard and Modern ranges, but Pete prefers the look of pickup rings. Jan 3, 2018 · Treble Bleed Mod Round-up | DrKevGuitar. 2 nF cap and a Jun 14, 2024 · For that treble bleed thread, the OP is the same insane dude who created GuitarFreak, the spreadsheet that will display exactly what a mod will do to your pickups. FINAL THOUGHTS For an individual sound along the lines of a lightweight customized hum free stratocaster capable of powerful hard rock tones with the added tonal possibilities to sound like a semi acoustic jazz guitar, the Suhr Modern Oct 25, 2013 · The Suhr bleed is fantastic. 001 and that is why I suggested almost 10 times lower value. AFAIK Suhr use a RC treble bleed on their HSS wiring scheme. And…. Jan 29, 2006 · Hi, I just got my RS wiring kit and it comes with a treble bleed circuit, with the capacitor and two resistors. I unsoldered one of the legs and then swapped the tone cap from . I added the Suhr spec treble bleed to it. What do you think would provide the most desired result. The circuit includes a built-in adjustable trimmer for tuning the Jun 14, 2024 · FWIW, I just checked the value of the treble bleed on my Ibanez JS6, which is loaded with a DiMarzio Fred (10. Fender have recently marketed a “Tone Saver” that they sometimes claim is not a simple treble bleed circuit, sometimes claim is a simple treble bleed circuit. The reason is that the wiper of the pot is effectively shorting out the treble bleed circuit. It’s a lot of fun to play with the options! In that scenario you might want the unit in the Suhr to be adjusted so that when it's at half volume you really hear the treble, as the neck humbucker might otherwise be too muffled. You didn't hurt anything by clipping them out, you just took out the treble bleed circuit, which most guitars don't have anyway. The circuit will also provide a more even tone and better overall sound to a guitar. Feb 16, 2010 · Esquire treble bleed cap? Jump to Latest 2K views 3 replies 4 participants last post by fraser Feb 16, 2010 TREBLE BLEED "John Suhr Designed Spec Series SPR", 680pF Sprague Poly Film capacitor, 150K KOA-SPEER Carbon Film resistor Seller Reviews (974) Reverb Protection May 3, 2022 · I wanted it to sound more like my Suhr Modern Mahogany with Maple top and SSH+ pickup. Reactions: phillybhatesme , geetarmikey , dcburn mk. I like it on full or raised volume lead tone but actually prefer the treble attenuation when I roll down the volume. I didn't find any benefit to 50s wiring. I have experience with other strats and HSS strats and this never really bothered me, but on this guitar dialing the volume back to clean up the tone Aug 14, 2024 · I came across DrKev's treble bleed mod page here and it looks like he's using a 560pf + 150K Ohms mod (in parallel). Is there That doesn't look like a normal Suhr wiring job at all. I’m going to keep it. The circuit includes a Aug 23, 2024 · For sale is a wonderful 2020 Ibanez AZ2204B, made in Japan Roasted maple neck (pretty chunky) Jumbo stainless steel frets 12” radius Alder body Jul 10, 2019 · The moderns also have a treble-bleed mod on their volume control which helps keep it bright as you clean up the gain too. Aug 24, 2022 · The point of a treble bleed mod is to counteract the effect of the increased capacitance that comes with lowering a volume pot, which darkens the treble of a pickup faster than the bass. Feb 20, 2012 · I've also upgraded my harness with CTS 250K pots with blend knob and treble bleed kit, Russian wiring and capacitors, 5-way Grisby switch and Switchcraft output jack. treble bleeds just gut the tone of a Gibson too much from what I've experienced. I like the John Suhr 680pf / 180k in parallel. com FAQ Search Memberlist Usergroups Register Jan 16, 2009 · Profile Log in to check your private messages Log in Jan 30, 2014 · I disconnected mine. The Strat might not have the same issue, and you might find that the treble bleed in that guitar can be somewhat more dialed back. PRS 180pf by itself is good for dark humbucker guitars. The most obvious difference between the Standard and the Signature Series model is the pickup surrounds. Most common value for treble bleed cap is 1nF=1000pF or 0. The normal Suhr treble bleed is a 150K resistor and 680pF cap. Jun 12, 2024 #1 Sep 8, 2014 · Alternatively I could do a treble bleed mod on the volume pot lugs. 022uf to restore a little presence to the top end (I find that despite what some people claim, the treble bleed has an effect of bypassing some of that treble even when the knob is on 10 - it's like a no load pot just for the upper treble frequencies and adds brightness) Treble Bleed: "CLASSIC"Authentic "John Suhr Designed Specs"INCLUDES :680pF MIM Ceramic Capacitor150K OHM KOA-SPEER Carbon Film Resistor("John Suhr Designed" Name used by permission)SHRINK TUBING INSULATION: RED INSTALLATION:THE TREBLE BLEED CIRCUIT MOUNTS ON THE FIRST TWO (HOT) LUGSON THE VOLUME Jun 12, 2024 · Well-known member. Aug 14, 2024 · I came across DrKev's treble bleed mod page here and it looks like he's using a 560pf + 150K Ohms mod (in parallel). Mar 10, 2017 · The treble bleed is meh. Attached is a photo of the electronics. In function it does not sound like this is a treble bleed mod already so i am thinking this is part of the SSC system. Just thinking out aloud, what differences might there be when comparing that set of values say, vs the 2 below: DiMarzio – 560 pF capacitor & 300 kΩ resistor John Suhr – 680 pF capacitor & 150kΩ resistor Thanks! The Official Suhr Forum www. 033uf to . Jul 31, 2016 · If not using any treble bleed circuit, the 500k volume pot will make it sound warmer when you turn the volume down to around 6/10 or lower. Nov 24, 2016 · Incidentally these values (1 nF & 150 kΩ) are sold by Stew Mac as a their “Golden Age Treble Bleed Circuit”. That "treble bleed" mod is actually boosting treble (as the pot gets turned down) but to the casual observer it sounds like it would "bleed off" treble. However, I did finally wire one of my HSS guitars using Suhr’s diagram and that make a pretty nice improvement. @scottosan came up with a wind that he calls the Roxy. I would suggest trying this and even 220pf. Difference lower value of treble bleed cap makes - it would not let as much highs and high mids as you roll off the volume. Jul 24, 2013 · The Suhr V60LP single coil pups have a low resonance peak and are darker than a traditional strat wind. It did exactly what it was supposed to do: take away any tone when I turned down the volume. 220pf is my favourite, but I have a series resistor as well. Be aware that your guitar will sound quite thin when the volume is rolled back. I currently got dimarzio area 58(neck), 67(middle) and a suhr thornbucker+(bridge) with a 250K volume pot. 2 nf capacitor. Which Apr 22, 2019 · CaliCaveMan - I'm not 100% sure what you mean by treble bleed but if you are referring to a cap on the volume pot to bleed treble as the volume is lowered: the Suhr doesn't sound like it has one, the outgoing Berly Strat which it is replacing did have one. In the toe down position, a BB Pre with bass and treble rolled off and more saturation. I rarely use a cable over 10’ to the board and nowadays I just run the amp a little brighter and Guitar treble Bleed high grade premium Suhr di Tokopedia ∙ Promo Pengguna Baru ∙ Cicilan 0% ∙ Kurir Instan. I still think I prefer no bleed, clipped it out of my tele and my LP has 50s wiring. Elevate your guitar playing today and experience the difference with every strum! Selecting an Adjustable Treble Bleed Circuit Green - low output pickups both single coil and humbucker. but when cut open features, can you guess? Yep, a 1. boltrecords Jan 16, 2009 · Profile Log in to check your private messages Log in Nov 27, 2018 · Pete Thorn is an absolute GENIUS for coming up with the awesome Suhr Thornbucker+! Amazing pickup which handles vintage and modern tones with clarity and eas Sep 29, 2013 · The stock treble bleed mod was a 330 pf capacitor + 500k pot on its own and was way too tinny and bright for me. Here is a quick back to back comparison of various Treble Blee Sep 6, 2013 · The vol pot cap you're describing is a treble bleed mod, to get more treble in the signal. 010 is 10nF and is usually used as cap for tone pot and would be too much for any treble bleed. Aug 26, 2008 · 1) look for "treble bleed mod". That is the explanation for not going with a 500K resistor for a straight 250K to the SC's. Feb 1, 2012 · If you go superstrat route, you can add HBs and wood choices to a standard strat that get you some nice fat tones, but still have a very good Strat sound. I'm looking to install a treble bleed as it gets really muddy when I roll back the volume. Sep 26, 2023 · It’s easy to end up with a single cap treble bleed that is too bright. Treble bleeds can be helpful in low-volume situations, like playing at home or quiet gigs but I find them unnecessary, especially on a tele bridge pup, as long as you can play loud enough, like normal gigs volumes. Recently I got a PRS SE 277 for which I replaced the pickups with Suhr SSV and SSH+ with a 5-way rotary and some more switchcraft. ii and 2 others geetarmikey Dec 10, 2012 · The McCarty 594 volume is one of the worst ones I've had for killing or losing the treble, totally changing the sound and EQ. Some of these attributes are down to the fact that the Suhr is new, with freshly matched components and a more balanced and efficient speaker. The only issues I really have are with some fuzz pedals not cleaning up properly. Thanks in advance Aug 11, 2022 · I’ve had my Suhr for a few months now and decided I’m not bonding with the treble bleed circuit. The Suhr sounded bigger while still popping in a mix. Jan 23, 2021 · Hello ! Longtime reader, first post on this great forum. 022 on the tone pot, before the treble bleed on the vol pot, to see if the treble bleed is needed. Aug 17, 2013 · Anyone familiar with Suhr's SSC wiring and putting a treble bleed mod in. If you want it to retain the high end you will want to install a treble bleed capacitor. There are tons of different recipes for treble bleed circuits - and this is one of them. Yours has an additional resistor. I wish the site looked cooler, and maybe its design makes people think it's inactive, which is a shame. I was going to wire it up using the Seymour Duncan schematic. New Boffin FX Adjustable Treble Bleed Circuit The treble bleed circuit will help with retaining of high frequencies at lower volumes. Curious: Do most Ibanez guitars have treble bleeds? My first 'real' guitar is a 1987 RG550. At first, I would add the treble bleed on your PRS and see how you like it. Suhr certainly is a very fine maker of such guitars. In the pic you can see it's pretty elaborate already and the right two vol pot lugs have what to appear as a cap and resistor of sorts already. Dec 5, 2018 · Nothing about the GG made me wish I had it instead, and nothing about the DK24 makes me wish I hadn't sold the Suhr. On most of my other guitars, I've removed the treble bleed cap and taken the tone control off the wiper of the Feb 21, 2022 · Does your guitar lose top end as you roll the volume knob down?You need a treble bleed circuit. The neck humbucker and middle single coil cleans up so nicely. It is possible to make a near perfect treble bleed circuit, but that requires a trivial modification to the guitar (adding a small 330 pF capacitor behind a switch) and using an ultra low capacitance cable. com FAQ Search Memberlist Usergroups Register A Treble Bleed circuit (or, "high pass filter") will help retain highs as you roll off the volume of your guitar or bass. Jul 12, 2008 · 0. If you are not familiar with, Suhr has a diagram that effectively has the humbucker seeingn500k and the singles seeing 250k. Some guitars like 50s wiring; some like a treble bleed circuit. Surh recommends installing a treble bleed circuit using a 150k resistor and a 680pf cap on the volume pot. All are welcome, from seasoned pros to absolute beginners. By adding a capacitor (high pass filter) you can let more highs get through. May 19, 2005 · Yes, it rolls of the highs a little bit but the sound remains usable. Mar 24, 2020 · And if anything, the Suhr has a little more punch and clarity. I no longer own it, but I did the same mod to it that I have done to my 2020 maple board Silver Sky that I just got today. -- 5 PACK!! --There are tons of different recipes for treble bleed circuits - and this is one of them. If you use a "Linear" pot, then a treble bleed with series resistor and cap is a better option. According to this link The values are 680pF/220K ( for single coils) and 1000pF/220K ( for humbuckers). I was wondering if . I use the bridge pickup more and would find it more useful on the bridge pot. The circuit has a 500K Suhr Forum. Apr 26, 2011 · Hey guys, just got a set of Suhr Aldrich pickups for one of my Les Pauls. Jan 16, 2009 · Profile Log in to check your private messages Log in Mar 27, 2024 · I mostly use the Kinman treble bleed with 1nf and a 130k resistor in series. But, it's pretty boring and doesn't add much complexity/malleability to my LP's tone. My ES-5 with three P-90s was the worst, it has a lot of HF loss when you turn down but the same treble bleed absolutely ruined the guitar so I yanked that, too. The Thornuckers are very, very bright for humbuckers tones - audibly brighter than my Strat with Suhr V63 single coils - so I'm debating on using a lower than the usual 1000pf/150k New 2021 Boffin FX Adjustable Treble Bleed Circuit The board is color-coded blue for the version. The wiring diagram included shows for it to be put on the neck volume pot and not the bridge. JMO Dec 31, 2024 · If there is no treble bleed circuit in the wiring, attenuation of the treble frequencies would be normal when turning the volume down. When in Piezo mode and roll off the volume it does not seem to have a treble bleed cap like on the electric side. The volume control complete with treble bleed is also helpful in that reducing volume does not reduce treble. This listing is for a Suhr-designed circuit, using a 680pf capacitor, and 150k ohm resistor - wired in parallel. Brand New Design! The EHS Treble Bleed Circuit are now made with manufacture PCBs with the EHS brand on them. My tech accidentally wired my LP with treble bleed circuit's when I told him to do the burst wiring. It can be a bit tricky finding the right cap and (if used) resistor values to avoid having a treble bleed sound tinny, so you may need to try a few. The circuit will give a more even tone and better overall sound to a guitar. Very, very happy all around. Dec 24, 2008 · The thing about Suhr guitars is that they're ALL made extremely well, they're easier to play, the pickups are the best I've ever heard, and unlike Fender, Suhr won't sell a guitar that's too heavy. It starts with the creator, the “type”; i. if you’ve never tried it, I think John Suhr got Jun 22, 2018 · But I actually prefer using a treble bleed without the resistor in my CS-336. angtzlse fyscxf hvlg vsvhq nzpkqv flmoiwwb fwsa vfvcg eiivww kejq